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Re: Where is the "plan"?

 Herman wrote:
Isn't it because Orban is a bit of a nazi?


One of the problems of democracy.

perhaps it should be done away withBig Smile [:D]

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Re: Where is the "plan"?

I get the feeling that is what Orban is trying to do. What's Hungarian for "will of the people"?
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Re: Where is the "plan"?

 Rock The Boat wrote:
The EU has voted to enact Article 7 procedures against Hungary which potentially could strip Hungary's voting rights in the EU. This is because the sovereign Hungarian government, with over 70% support of the electorate has decided not to allow immigrants to cross its borders. The EU demonstrating once again that it is an authoritarian dictatorship that cares nothing for sovereign democracy. On the bright side this will only speed up the collapse of the EU.

If there is one certainty in life, it is that brdexiteers will lie

The reality is Orban has been

" accused of violating press freedoms, undermining judicial independence and waging an antisemitic campaign against a leading Jewish businessman "

" accused of attacks on the media, minorities, and the rule of law"

" subject to allegations of corruption relating to the alleged misspending of EU funds by his friends and family "

What ths demonstrates is the democracy within the EU Parliament, as it was EU MEP's who passed this vote 

so we have to assume therefore that RTB opposes democracy in the EU ,as well as in the UK.

For those who want to find out more, away from RTB's lies, then the FT has this


and the BBC


RTB and other brexiteers might welcome a world where right wing nutters do as they please without any democratic accountability - others don't, hence the vote today



plenty of other reliable sources besides those linked - so if interested then read for yourself



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Re: Where is the "plan"?

 ricardo wrote:
 Herman wrote:
Isn't it because Orban is a bit of a nazi?


One of the problems of democracy.

perhaps it should be done away with
Big Smile [:D]

spoken like a true brexiteer

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Re: Where is the "plan"?

 Rock The Boat wrote:
The EU has voted to enact Article 7 procedures against Hungary which potentially could strip Hungary's voting rights in the EU. This is because the sovereign Hungarian government, with over 70% support of the electorate has decided not to allow immigrants to cross its borders. The EU demonstrating once again that it is an authoritarian dictatorship that cares nothing for sovereign democracy. On the bright side this will only speed up the collapse of the EU.



What's this ? Hungary is a " sovereign  government " and a " sovereign democracy " ? But it's in the EU , we are regularly told on here we must leave to get our sovereignty back .

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Re: OT. Brexit.

Yet another huge post-referendum investment, this time £50m into Wales from Aston Martin to produce electric vehicles, the good news keeps coming Yes <img src=">
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Re: Where is the "plan"?

 Ben wrote:
 ricardo wrote:
 Herman wrote:
Isn't it because Orban is a bit of a nazi?


One of the problems of democracy.

perhaps it should be done away with
Big Smile [:D]

spoken like a true brexiteer


oh the ironyWink [;)]

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Re: OT. Brexit.

"Most British Conservative MEPs supported the Hungarian government, arguing that the EU had intruded into purely national matters. They strongly deny it was to secure Hungary's support in the Brexit process or out of admiration for the country's leader."


No depth too low for Brexit. Scumbags.

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Re: Where is the "plan"?

oh dear, you are getting confused again

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Re: OT. Brexit.

 SwindonCanary wrote:
Yet another huge post-referendum investment, this time £50m into Wales from Aston Martin to produce electric vehicles, the good news keeps coming Yes <img src=">


yes, that means around 80p per UK resident

assuming none of the materials come from outside of the UK that is

but then I suppose it will go some way to offsetting the £400m being lost every week because of the referendum

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Re: OT. Brexit.

Now they know how the normal people of this country feel.


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Re: Where is the "plan"?

 Ben wrote:
 Rock The Boat wrote:
The EU has voted to enact Article 7 procedures against Hungary which potentially could strip Hungary's voting rights in the EU. This is because the sovereign Hungarian government, with over 70% support of the electorate has decided not to allow immigrants to cross its borders. The EU demonstrating once again that it is an authoritarian dictatorship that cares nothing for sovereign democracy. On the bright side this will only speed up the collapse of the EU.

If there is one certainty in life, it is that brdexiteers will lie

The reality is Orban has been

" accused of violating press freedoms, undermining judicial independence and waging an antisemitic campaign against a leading Jewish businessman "

" accused of attacks on the media, minorities, and the rule of law"

" subject to allegations of corruption relating to the alleged misspending of EU funds by his friends and family "

Accusations from the EU and their supporters. Made up stories for the sheep like you to repeat. baah baaah!
Hungary voted > 50% for their Prime Minister and currently enjoys a 70% approval rating. Now why don't you tells us what % of the European eletorate voted for Junker and what is his current approval rating?

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Re: OT. Brexit.

 Ben wrote:
 SwindonCanary wrote:
Yet another huge post-referendum investment, this time £50m into Wales from Aston Martin to produce electric vehicles, the good news keeps coming Yes <img src=">


yes, that means around 80p per UK resident

assuming none of the materials come from outside of the UK that is

but then I suppose it will go some way to offsetting the £400m being lost every week because of the referendum

Still looking at a 'No Deal' It will not happen Yes <img src=">

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Re: OT. Brexit.



 Herman wrote:
Now they know how the normal people of this country feel.


The odd things is

"Until now, Orbán has largely been shielded from any EU disciplinary action by his fellow European People's Party (EPP) members in the European Parliament.

But after a fiery speech by Orbán at a debate in Strasbourg on Tuesday in which he called the commission's report into Hungary's policies "blackmail," it appeared that patience was wearing thin among EPP members.

In an unexpected move, another anti-migrant leader, Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz, said on Tuesday that his party's five European lawmakers would vote against Hungary."

Unfortunately the EU's willingness to give him the benefit of the doubt has echoes of another European dictator who saw similar levels of non action as weakness.

Odd that brexiteers should wish to side with such an undemocratic bully..... or not.

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Re: Where is the "plan"?

 MooreMarriot wrote:
 Rock The Boat wrote:
The EU has voted to enact Article 7 procedures against Hungary which potentially could strip Hungary's voting rights in the EU. This is because the sovereign Hungarian government, with over 70% support of the electorate has decided not to allow immigrants to cross its borders. The EU demonstrating once again that it is an authoritarian dictatorship that cares nothing for sovereign democracy. On the bright side this will only speed up the collapse of the EU.



What's this ? Hungary is a " sovereign  government " and a " sovereign democracy " ? But it's in the EU , we are regularly told on here we must leave to get our sovereignty back .

Even you can see the difference between the voters of Hungary democratically electing a Prime Minister to keep out illegal immigrants and the undemocratic EU daring to punish a nation for acing democratically.

If that's a little difficult for you then remind us how many knife attacks and sexual assults have been carried out by illegal immigrants in the EU since the start of ths year? In Hungary the answer is 'zero'.

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