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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

spot on, well put

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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/pinkun-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>sgncfc wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">If any of you seriously think that Farke is on borrowed time then you really haven't been paying attention.

The model is in place and progress is being made. We have a solid Championship squad and there is absolutely no chance of relegation. I wonder what games you are watching. We just drew away to Ipswich - we didn't lose; we weren't outplayed; we had the better chances.

We are clearly nowhere near the finished article but he will be given time and will get at least another two year deal after this season to continue the progress without the remaining high earners and with more academy graduates coming through.

He and the coaching staff are clearly developing the players they are bringing to the club and have already brought several academy players through earlier than any other manager in our history.

You can post on forums all your silly negative comments and chant whatever you like. You can even stop going to games (those of you that do), but you'll be back when we start winning. He is going nowhere anytime soon.

Because it is working. Can you really not see that?</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>


The only thing that is working is Delias constant penny pinching with two bob managers and extremely cheap players. The club is getting worse each season. If you are happy with that, then my hat goes off to you. I prefer winning football matches, as opposed to whatever it is you seem to enjoy.
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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

The model I am working the problem is it's a suboptimal model

This model has been chosen as its the only one tang would applied the stowmarket 2 to remain owners of the club. It has nothing to do with what is in the best interests of the club
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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/pinkun-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>sgncfc wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">If any of you seriously think that Farke is on borrowed time then you really haven't been paying attention.

The model is in place and progress is being made. We have a solid Championship squad and there is absolutely no chance of relegation. I wonder what games you are watching. We just drew away to Ipswich - we didn't lose; we weren't outplayed; we had the better chances.

We are clearly nowhere near the finished article but he will be given time and will get at least another two year deal after this season to continue the progress without the remaining high earners and with more academy graduates coming through.

He and the coaching staff are clearly developing the players they are bringing to the club and have already brought several academy players through earlier than any other manager in our history.

You can post on forums all your silly negative comments and chant whatever you like. You can even stop going to games (those of you that do), but you'll be back when we start winning. He is going nowhere anytime soon.

Because it is working. Can you really not see that?</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>


Absolutely no chance of relegation? With respect, that’s a very delusional statement. Look at our results so far this season, current league postion, and form from the end of last season into this. Factor in the loss of key players, we are most certainly not guaranteed survival in this league.
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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

There was some “sort it out” chanting yesterday but it was certainly not representative of most of our fans there. If we had lost then maybe after the game there would have been a lot more discontent but yesterday the manager did enough. The problem now is that the honeymoon is well and truly over and some fans are going to judge him on a game by game basis, another bad string of results and that may well be it.
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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

We weren’t outplayed by them. No id hope not as they were rock bottom of the league. They did still manage more shots than us though, if you don’t buy a ticket and all that
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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

 lake district canary wrote:
 TIL 1010 wrote:
 a few renditions of ' You don't know what you're doing '.

Can I suggest some of our fans pop down to Asda or Morissons and get dvd's of Aladdin to watch on a Saturday afternoon rather than go to the football - I'm sure you would love it - you know who you are - you're the ones that like to mindlessly ** off our club or our players in the middle of matches.  In a pantomime you are supposed to boo the villains - and lucky for you they make it really obvious in pantomimes who the villains are and everyone loves it because everything happens as it should.  

I can't quite believe what I have read about the chants that were at the ground today. Shouting "You don't know what you're doing" is absolutely ironic. At matches, slagging off the team, club, manager or whoever is in your tiny minds when you do it is pathetic behaviour from people who are obviously so removed from real life - or just plain thick - that it is laughable.

The clue is in the word "Support". Look it up.  
Exactly this.

Truly pathetic from our 'support' yesterday but not particularly surprising given what the Carrow Road crowd has typically been serving up for a long time now. In fact, not just pathetic but shameful and embarassing.

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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

I don’t blame them because we way we cane out after half time was completely unacceptable and is not a one off either.

To be fair to Farke he is now making subs earlier and they are influencing games as on Sunday but this trend of only stepping up the intensity and playing with the necessary tempo/bite after we go behind needs to be addressed. Whatever the tone/content of his half time team talks is it doesn’t seem to be working.
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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/pinkun-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong> Badger wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"><font color="#0000FF"><font color="#0000FF">Frankly, I hear it very frequently when we go behind at home games, so it's hardly news. </font>The vast majority of our supporters are excellent and loyal to the club, but there is a tiny minority who react very badly whenever things do not go well - it always has been the case. <br><br>Imo, it is silly to start writing off a manager after half a dozen games in a season, when he is still trying to integrate new players, particularly when we have sold so much talent since he has joined. I'm sure that there are experts who think otherwise.<br></font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

The thing is though badger we are going to be selling and replacing players every summer so does the same apply every season? Also once again the whole of last season can not be written off.
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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

 sgncfc wrote:
If any of you seriously think that Farke is on borrowed time then you really haven't been paying attention. The model is in place and progress is being made. We have a solid Championship squad and there is absolutely no chance of relegation. I wonder what games you are watching. We just drew away to Ipswich - we didn't lose; we weren't outplayed; we had the better chances. We are clearly nowhere near the finished article but he will be given time and will get at least another two year deal after this season to continue the progress without the remaining high earners and with more academy graduates coming through. He and the coaching staff are clearly developing the players they are bringing to the club and have already brought several academy players through earlier than any other manager in our history. You can post on forums all your silly negative comments and chant whatever you like. You can even stop going to games (those of you that do), but you'll be back when we start winning. He is going nowhere anytime soon. Because it is working. Can you really not see that?


I do agree with most of that, but beware of the "we are too good for relegation" stuff - no club can afford to be complacent.  I do believe progress is being made too and the logic of what Farke does is there to see - if people want to see it.  Even the move to a more direct syle is part of a logical development and a result of Farke adapting his philosophy to the needs of the league.  Super fitness as a result of the extra training we do, keeping the ball as a good technical side should do, allied to a more robust direct style. 

I compared it to the Stringer era a while ago, but it seems to me you could go further - Farke is a combination of Saunders (extra fitness a key component), Stringer (posession a key component) and Walker (take the abiliity to keep possession and make it more direct).  Obviously Farke has not achieved what those managers did (yet), but the logic is faultless - take the best attributes of what a good footblling side does and see it through to fufillment. It is working - and it will develop and improve - but it won't be easy, simply because of the quality of the opposition in this league, which is very, very strong.




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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

I am no doom monger and suspect we will finish lower mid table. That said for some to totally discount the potential of relegation is being complacent. Last season 42 would have been safe which is about where we are 6 games in. The previous season Blackburn went down with 51 and we are not hitting those levels yet. Regardless of the model Farke needs a stonking run the stand any chance of a new contract
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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

The model is in place?

What model? a model that Webber got lucky with once at Huddersfield, you cant just do the same thing elsewhere and expect to replicate it so easily.

Progress is being made?

How so? Feck all progression, this years team is worse than last year and we are worse off at this point than we were last year.

"absolutely no chance of relegation."

Give me 50/1?

We have a solid Championship squad?

Deluded, absolutely deluded. Relying on Rhodes and Pukki for goals with Srbeny to save the day. Still leaking goals. An Alex Tettey who literally as forgotten how to kick a ball at some points this season. An ex-international goalkeeper who couldn't catch a cold.

Realistically we've sold five of our best players for close to £40-50 Million. We've invested none into the team. We've got our best striker and someone could could be the best striker in the league sat not playing football. We've a worst team than last year. Our end of season form was terrible, we've started the same way. We're no better off then when Alex Neil left, the same Alex Neil who took Preston to 7th. We finished behind Ipswich, Leeds, Sheff United and Millwall. Clubs a farce. I cant engage with this team of foreigners who don't know what it means to play for this club or in this division. I'm fed and the predictability is all too tedious.

How anyone can put a positive spin on the last 14 months is beyond me.
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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

Lakey reckons that Farke is a combination of Saunders, Stringer and Walker ! Dear God i will have a pint of what you drink mate as to me it looks more like Morgan, Megson and Roeder.

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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/pinkun-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>CDMullins wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">The model is in place?

What model? a model that Webber got lucky with once at Huddersfield, you cant just do the same thing elsewhere and expect to replicate it so easily.

Progress is being made?

How so? Feck all progression, this years team is worse than last year and we are worse off at this point than we were last year.

"absolutely no chance of relegation."

Give me 50/1?

We have a solid Championship squad?

Deluded, absolutely deluded. Relying on Rhodes and Pukki for goals with Srbeny to save the day. Still leaking goals. An Alex Tettey who literally as forgotten how to kick a ball at some points this season. An ex-international goalkeeper who couldn't catch a cold.

Realistically we've sold five of our best players for close to £40-50 Million. We've invested none into the team. We've got our best striker and someone could could be the best striker in the league sat not playing football. We've a worst team than last year. Our end of season form was terrible, we've started the same way. We're no better off then when Alex Neil left, the same Alex Neil who took Preston to 7th. We finished behind Ipswich, Leeds, Sheff United and Millwall. Clubs a farce. I cant engage with this team of foreigners who don't know what it means to play for this club or in this division. I'm fed and the predictability is all too tedious.

How anyone can put a positive spin on the last 14 months is beyond me.</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

The only purpose of this model is to keep this club out of debt,so Delia and her family get their knees up every week without having to put a penny in to the club. Then they can have their yearly board meeting, con the Delia lovers who attend and get that nephew closer to the helm just to put the nail in to the club
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Re: Farke,Farke Sort It Out,Farke Sort It Out !

 Jim Smith wrote:


The thing is though badger we are going to be selling and replacing players every summer so does the same apply every season? Also once again the whole of last season can not be written off.


I am not sure that this is the case - it largely depends upon the wage budget.

We have a choice - we can "over-pay" and have a wage budget that our revenue can sustain. If this is the case, we will have to make up the shortfall from player sales.

Alternatively, we can reduce the wage budget to a level where there is no need to sell. A club with our attendances and, n.b.  other commercial revenue, would be bale to maintain a wage budget similar to the median or above in the Championship.

My guess is that we will go somewhere between the two. We will run a player wage budget that is consistent with the expectation that we will sell players to generate extra revenue. The reality of any championship club's situation is that without parachute payments, if premier league clubs come calling the player will want to go. So I accept that there is a "livestock" development element to the clubs plans.

However, we have mainly made the financial transition that was necessary following relegation with a bloated and sometimes over-paid squad and can start to build a team. The need for wholesale player sales is ended.

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