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nevermind is not online. Last active: 05/11/2014 15:21:39 nevermind

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Less than 100 days to go
for Scotland to vote for Independence. Up to now the Government has scared scottish voters, but the facts on the ground are different.

Scotland is in the EU already, it is not threatening to come out, its Cameron who is throwing his toys out of the pram because he can't get his way over Junckers appointment. That he threatens to pull the UK out of the EU, long before we are being asked is unfortunate, because I believe that the English will vote for the buttered side of the toast, not some maybe's and could be's.

He says he wants reform thats why he opposes Juncker, but his only reform is pulling us out of the existing working time directive and after leaving the EPP to sit next to Yobbik and Le Pens lot, he has to realise that his kind of reform will end up with the hollow sound of hobnail boots. What a useless brat spat, if he believes that Merkel will risk her grand coalition for his fancy dreams, he's got another thing coming.

Back to SAcotland and the manipulation by the no borders/BBC campaign, virutually one and the same. Cameron has pressured 34 nations into opposing Independence, Obama's latest missive of 'deep interest' last weekend came after a question the BBC came up with prompted him into making this statement.

Should Scotland become Independent we can finally readdress this old and smelly politicaql system here in England, the last to be denied change.
http://www.weourselves.com/herald-blows-lid-clean-off-camerons-covert-operations/


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It's a Scottish thing.
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A thought provoking article here, very long JG, you might not want to bother.
The comments below speak volumes, i.e. the Scots are not believeing a thing Cameron utters.

http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2014/06/the-scottish-political-singula.html

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No one believes a word Cameron says.

The Scottish thing, it's up to them.
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The Scots will never have a Tory government again if they vote for independence. Reason enough to vote yes I should think.
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But the HOC will lose 41 Labour MPs, 11 LibDems and only 1 Tory.
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 Joanna Grey wrote:
But the HOC will lose 41 Labour MPs, 11 LibDems and only 1 Tory.



And the English will be free tyo make their own decisions, for the first time. Wales,Northern Ireland and Scotland will then have their own Parliaments making decisiuons far more fairer (PR) than the English.
I assume that Scotland will stay in Europe, keep the pound, for now, and that it will flourish.

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If they vote for independance will all the jocks living in England go home ? Smile [:)]
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 FenwayFrank wrote:
If they vote for independance will all the jocks living in England go home ? Smile [:)]




Yes its all about going home isn't it. This is how the Scotsman's portraits Camerons splendid isolationism today,

http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.3458593.1403812990!/image/2085769402.jpg_gen/derivatives/articleImgDeriv_628px/2085769402.jpg

and this is our very own Independent on its way to tabloid status, a marked difference. Whilst the Scotsman makes a point in a more demure fashion, the Independent is pulling out all the stops, bar adding Churchillian quotes of fighting urchins on the beaches.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9567047.ece/alternates/w1024/daily-cartoon-20140627.jpg

If Cameron only so much thinks of leaving the EU, he will have more than just the City pushing him, he will have multinationals and Chinese investors looking for another EU country as a point of entrance to the EU's markets, his whole argument has been disingenous.



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I think someone is worried that he may get deported.
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I think someone is worried that he may get deported.



who would that be then JG?

Are you not worried that Scotlands common border with England will let in more immigrants when they are Independent, the latest scare which is backfiring?
An Independent Scotland can make its own decisions on immigration and they can choose whether they want educated employees, hurray 'enries, or subbing layabouts who can't be bothered to educate themselves, they are free of English guidance on that matter.



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 nevermind wrote:
 Joanna Grey wrote:
I think someone is worried that he may get deported.



who would that be then JG?

Are you not worried that Scotlands common border with England will let in more immigrants when they are Independent, the latest scare which is backfiring?
An Independent Scotland can make its own decisions on immigration and they can choose whether they want educated employees, hurray 'enries, or subbing layabouts who can't be bothered to educate themselves, they are free of English guidance on that matter.




If the Scots want to go then it's entirely up to them but at least they are being asked to make a decision on what they want. This is something we are unlikely to get over Europe.

Having said that I confidently predict that Scots will vote No by about 55% to 45%. Unfortunately this sort of result is going to leave a legacy of bitterness in Scotland and no doubt the blame will fall upon the English.

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Scots have every right to vote for Independence if they want it. Like NM, I am sure that they would thrive and if England left the EU whilst Scotland stayed in, there could be a transfer of jobs northwards. Thinking about it, this might not be too bad a thing for England in the long run... Who knows?

Agree with most on this thread - it seems to me an indefensible position to deny people the chance of a vote on EU membership after 40 years.

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looks like the people in Scotland have realised how a biased, pro establishment BBC has been covering the campaign. They will want change and they should have change. Once they achieve it there 's nothing holding us back here in England, the last bastion against change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hk1o2Apa_Q#t=130

I predict a Yes campaign win but shan't copy the mainstream prediction machines. The Yes campaign will get a lot opf first time voters.

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You have to look at the referendum in a clam and objective way. Scotland will be free to choose what their direction, their Government and foreign policy will be.
This is a refreshing view of independence and all this chat about currencies talking about value,etc. when in reality we are living on quantitative easing is somewhat far fetched. Scotland is in the EU and as that will be able to choose the Euro if it so wishes, and once Cameron takes Britain out of the EU, so he says, many multinationals will not wait to see what happens, but relocate to a coun try that guarantees their access to a very lucrative EU market.
http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/9026-scotland-freedom-priceless.html

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